quoted 6 lines With any repetetive music, unless you know where to listen for the> With any repetetive music, unless you know where to listen for the
> changes and fluctuations you'll miss them. I heard most of Liquid Room
> in the record store and my reaction was 'Fuck Yeah!" and I followed it
> the way you have to follow an extended Coltrane solo like 'Traning In.'
> I didn't hear monotony, I heard variety, but the variety is at the edges --
> at the center is "BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM"
What reason on earth is there for this monotonous pounding? One of the
things that I like best about electronic music is that it allows sounds
and rhythms impossible with acoustic instruments played hands-on. This
is just lazy. It takes about 2 seconds to set up a kick drum loop like
that and I'd no sooner spend an hour listening to it than I would a
metronome. This is anti-human music. Part of the reason I enjoy a lot
of the Rephlex stuff so much is that so much personality and humor shines
through all the rough edges of those disks. I'm sure I could come up
with a simple computer algorithm that could churn out disks at
interesting as the Liquid room mix all day long.
I'm not a big fan of jungle in general but junglists deserve a lot of
credit for opening up the rhythmic structure of this music. My problem
with a lot of jungle is that it's not structured *enough* to hold my
attention. This is a fine line to walk. It's hard for me not to see the
entire history of 4-floor dance music as a crude pre-history of 21st
century electronic music. Nobody is going to listen to those thumping
house records 15 years from now. I don't even like to dance to this stuff
and I'll *never* throw it on at home. There's a world of difference
between using repetetion effectively and with restraint and just letting
the sequencer loop endlessly.
It's interesting to compare this to the Herbert disk, for example.
Herbert sticks to our favorite house rhythm formula pretty closely, but
weaves enough secondary rhythmic elements around it and mixes it low
enough that it's possible to give his tracks some color and direction.
I'm sure I'd like it better if he broke the beats up a bit, but there is
at least something of his mind and soul there.
quoted 2 lines I ain't going to make you buy this and make it your religion, Miles.> I ain't going to make you buy this and make it your religion, Miles.
> Feel free to hate it. I just think you may be missing something here.
It's too late. I bought it already. I imagine that there is some
interesting tweaking going on beneath all that idiotic pounding, but
there are far too many musicians making music that is innovative and
expressive at all levels for me to ever bother with something this
compromised.
This has certainly been churned through before, but I think it's
intersting to note how little of the music discussed on the IDM list
really is dance music.